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		<title>By: Ron Nothman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Nothman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 00:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Joel,

              Just stumbled on your beautiful words, you know i&#039;m not much with computers. Poppy had a-lot of pains in his knees for many years. He was from the old school of you don&#039;t (whinge and complain)when your in pain. I used to go to the bakehouse in the mornings before high school in the early 70&#039;s and as an apprentice to help him in &#039;73. I think the pain just got too much for him, as he loved to create his masterpieces and be working hard. He was such a proud man, and his cheeky smile and out of left field jokes, always kept us happy to be around him.He was a man who just enjoyed piece, and to go on an adventure, even if it was just to the cliffs at Ben Buckler North Bondi. I have many fond memories of a happy man, fixing all sorts of things with his poor crushed up hand. Happy and always a smile that&#039;s what I will remember.  Ron Nothman  : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Joel,</p>
<p>              Just stumbled on your beautiful words, you know i&#8217;m not much with computers. Poppy had a-lot of pains in his knees for many years. He was from the old school of you don&#8217;t (whinge and complain)when your in pain. I used to go to the bakehouse in the mornings before high school in the early 70&#8242;s and as an apprentice to help him in &#8217;73. I think the pain just got too much for him, as he loved to create his masterpieces and be working hard. He was such a proud man, and his cheeky smile and out of left field jokes, always kept us happy to be around him.He was a man who just enjoyed piece, and to go on an adventure, even if it was just to the cliffs at Ben Buckler North Bondi. I have many fond memories of a happy man, fixing all sorts of things with his poor crushed up hand. Happy and always a smile that&#8217;s what I will remember.  Ron Nothman  : )</p>
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		<title>By: Melody Mayes</title>
		<link>http://www.joelnothman.com/2007/06/12/loss-from-afar/comment-page-1/#comment-2422</link>
		<dc:creator>Melody Mayes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 19:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, I am your related to you as a fifth cousin.  My half-sister reminded me that often Rosa Nothmann, my grandmother, would say &quot;a closed mouth lets no flies in.&quot;  Her words also were few but witty and wise, as I am told.  I never met her nor my father, who lived under an assumed name illegally in the United States for over 30 years.  Only now some 30 years after his death, I am able to find and learn about those, who before were a hole in my life.  Thank you for writing and keeping those memories of your poppy alive.  I only felt my father death and mourned in the moments that we normally would share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, I am your related to you as a fifth cousin.  My half-sister reminded me that often Rosa Nothmann, my grandmother, would say &#8220;a closed mouth lets no flies in.&#8221;  Her words also were few but witty and wise, as I am told.  I never met her nor my father, who lived under an assumed name illegally in the United States for over 30 years.  Only now some 30 years after his death, I am able to find and learn about those, who before were a hole in my life.  Thank you for writing and keeping those memories of your poppy alive.  I only felt my father death and mourned in the moments that we normally would share.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.joelnothman.com/2007/06/12/loss-from-afar/comment-page-1/#comment-367</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few weeks later, I have just read the official eulogy for Poppy. It is startling how poor my memory is, if I knew these things in detail at all. It is a beautiful eulogy and a beautiful story, and maybe I will upload it some day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks later, I have just read the official eulogy for Poppy. It is startling how poor my memory is, if I knew these things in detail at all. It is a beautiful eulogy and a beautiful story, and maybe I will upload it some day.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, mum, I know that was a factual error. In one version of the article I corrected it, but it seems it crept back in...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, mum, I know that was a factual error. In one version of the article I corrected it, but it seems it crept back in&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mum</title>
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		<dc:creator>mum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joel, and obviously others reading,
I also failed to cry.
Poppy didn&#039;t stop baking because he injured his hand. The most severe injury he had,produced by catching his right hand in an industrial mixing machine, happened early in his married life, I think before any kids, and despite several operations and many months of hospitalisation, he returned to work. He quit the bakehouse and shop (I think in 1977 - Daniella was 4)because he thought it was time: enough years of 4am rising to bake, opening the shop at 7 and shutting at 5pm. After a few months of retirement, he took the job at the kosher counter at the new DJ&#039;s store in Bondi Junction, a full-time position which,for him, was definitely part-time. 
Although mourning is always in a way a solitary thing, it is a much lonelier without the company of other mourners.
Peter,Ron and Dad wrote a lovely obituary;I didn&#039;t think to bring a hard copy for you to Is, maybe you got it by email? If not ask to see it when you get home.
Love mum</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joel, and obviously others reading,<br />
I also failed to cry.<br />
Poppy didn&#8217;t stop baking because he injured his hand. The most severe injury he had,produced by catching his right hand in an industrial mixing machine, happened early in his married life, I think before any kids, and despite several operations and many months of hospitalisation, he returned to work. He quit the bakehouse and shop (I think in 1977 &#8211; Daniella was 4)because he thought it was time: enough years of 4am rising to bake, opening the shop at 7 and shutting at 5pm. After a few months of retirement, he took the job at the kosher counter at the new DJ&#8217;s store in Bondi Junction, a full-time position which,for him, was definitely part-time.<br />
Although mourning is always in a way a solitary thing, it is a much lonelier without the company of other mourners.<br />
Peter,Ron and Dad wrote a lovely obituary;I didn&#8217;t think to bring a hard copy for you to Is, maybe you got it by email? If not ask to see it when you get home.<br />
Love mum</p>
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		<title>By: Alicia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alicia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 09:41:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:( Condolences Joel and family... *hugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://www.joelnothman.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  Condolences Joel and family&#8230; *hugs*</p>
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